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Anonymous scout on James Harden's fit with Clippers: I don't know if Harden fits on any team

“Honestly, I don’t know if James Harden fits anywhere — like any team,” Scout No. 3 said via phone. “And I don’t know how this fit is going to be. Maybe it’ll work out when the Clippers are injured and they have him playing instead of Kawhi. But for me, in the last couple of years watching James, I don’t think he has the same finishing ability. He doesn’t shoot the ball as well. He doesn’t have the same ability to get to the hole. … He’s not the same player. And I don’t think he’s willing to say, ‘I’m going to be a distributor’ — which he’s very good at. But I don’t think he’s willing to step into that role.”
Source: Sam Amick @ The Athletic

What’s the buzz on Twitter?

Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
When it hasn’t worked out for James Harden at his three previous stops, what gave the Clippers confidence it will with them?
Ty Lue referenced his confidence in LAC and “starting a new chapter.” pic.twitter.com/iM03wGMQit2:05 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
Ty Lue said he has an idea for how he’ll stagger his lineups with Harden now on the roster, but he didn’t want to reveal it, nor his starters, yet. – 1:56 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
Ty Lue said James Harden looked “really good” in yesterday’s stay ready game against coaches and some younger players. He said the Clippers “want to be smart” in how much to push his workload as he debuts with the team. – 1:54 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Terance Mann and Brandon Boston Jr. will not practice today.
Everyone else will, including James Harden. – 1:53 PM
Sam Amick @sam_amick
The question of sacrifice will be key for these Clippers. And not surprisingly, there’s skepticism that James Harden will do what he did in Philly again.
“He’s not the same player. And I don’t think he’s willing to say, ‘I’m going to be a distributor.'”
theathletic.com/5026190/2023/1…11:11 AM
Kurt Helin @basketballtalk
Harden says time in Philly was ‘like being on a leash;’ Embiid pushes back
nbcsports.com/nba/news/harde…11:06 AM
Sam Amick @sam_amick
Will James Harden fit with the Clippers?
I gave the microphone to three NBA scouts to analyze that question.
“I just don’t see how they blend…”
“I think they needed to do it…”
“Short term 👍 Long term 😬”
Much more here, at @TheAthletic
theathletic.com/5026190/2023/1…10:58 AM
Mirjam Swanson @MirjamSwanson
So we’re done with the streetlights over spotlights business now, ya?
With the Harden move, the Clippers put themselves center stage, beneath said spotlight. The will-it-work-or-won’t-it discourse (it could!) gonna be hot — and good for the franchise.
ocregister.com/2023/11/02/swa…10:33 AM
Jake Fischer @JakeLFischer
The Damian Lillard trade was a three-team deal. The James Harden trade was a three-team deal.
Latest @YahooSports, the NBA’s average number of multi-team trades doubled the past four seasons since the decade before it. The new CBA is only bringing more: sports.yahoo.com/why-does-it-se…10:28 AM
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanHoops
Celtics Remain Undefeated + James Harden to the Clippers | Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman Podcast twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1…10:00 AM
Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
Some Sixers stuff over the last few days.
First up, an explainer on the James Harden trade: details on the draft picks the Sixers received, the protections on them, salary cap ramifications of the deal, and the flexibility that they gained as a result.
allphly.com/james-harden-t…9:59 AM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
After a win over the Raptors, Joel Embiid turned his attention to James Harden and addressed the notion of any misuse #Sixers sixerswire.usatoday.com/lists/joel-emb… via @SixersWire – 9:49 AM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
Daryl Morey pulled the trigger on a James Harden deal and his team is now armed with cap space. So what’s next? #Sixers sixerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/03/dar… via @SixersWire – 9:23 AM
Jorge Sierra @hoopshype
James Harden: “I’m just not a system player… I’m a system, you know what I mean?” pic.twitter.com/Fa7d2f7dD88:45 AM
Jeff Wade @SkinWade
I think I might need to defend James Harden on this. It’s not enviable, but it’s the right thing to do – 8:22 AM
Justin Grasso @JGrasso_
“I hope we both make the finals, and he’s on the losing side of it, and we’re on the winning side of it. … I’m happy for him. He got what he wanted.”
Joel Embiid issues his closing statements on James Harden as the Sixers move forward
More here ⬇
si.com/nba/76ers/news…7:34 AM
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Jon Johnson @jonjohnsonwip
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Mike Vorkunov @MikeVorkunov
James Harden feels like he’s “not a system player,” but “a system,” yet Joel Embiid says he didn’t see signs of unhappiness in Philly from Harden.
“We allowed him to be himself and we gave him the ball every single possession. Because he’s really good.”
theathletic.com/5026734/2023/1… pic.twitter.com/sO3yqbx9PI1:19 AM
Tim Bontemps @TimBontemps
New ESPN story: Joel Embiid wishes James Harden well, and said he’s happy he got what he wanted. But he disagrees with Harden’s assessment of his time in Philly.
“In my opinion, we gave him the ball every single possession, because he’s really good.”
espn.com/nba/story/_/id…1:13 AM
Melissa Rohlin @melissarohlin
James Harden has arrived in LA. And here’s what he had to say about his new team — and his old one.
foxsports.com/stories/nba/ja…11:03 PM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
Joel Embiid addressed the James Harden trade after a win over the Raptors tonight #Sixers sixerswire.usatoday.com/lists/joel-emb… via @SixersWire – 10:56 PM
Gina Mizell @ginamizell
More Embiid on Harden trade: “We gave him the ball every single possession. Get us into everything, really, offensively, because he’s such a good playmaker. So it’s unfortunate, but we’ve just got to move on and we’ve got a good group of guys.” – 10:51 PM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
Joel on Harden (1/2): “I think he did a lot of great things for us, but the notion of misuse, maybe that might have been coming from the way he felt with the coaching staff and what was said, but in my opinion, I just feel like we allowed him to be himself…” #Sixers10:35 PM
Ben Golliver @BenGolliver
Story: James Harden begins Clippers tenure with parting shots at 76ers @washingtonpost @PostSports
washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/11…10:34 PM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
Joel Embiid on James Harden: “I’m happy that the situation got resolved. I’m happy for him. He wanted it to happen and it’s all business. I’m happy for him. I hope he has a chance to succeed and make a lot of money, play good basketball, and being able to win…” #Sixers10:23 PM
Kyle Neubeck @KyleNeubeck
Embiid gave a long answer on Harden’s comments today. Lot of Harden praise.
“We allowed him to just be himself, and we gave him the ball on every single possession. Because he’s really good. He’s an amazing player. I’m not that great of a passer, [so] we gave him the ball.” pic.twitter.com/biB7peKXKL10:17 PM
Austin Krell @NBAKrell
In their first game after trading James “The System” Harden to Los Angeles, the Sixers had a bunch of guys come together in a team system to beat up on the Toronto Raptors.
Imagine that!
973espn.com/tobias-harris-…9:48 PM
Noah Levick @NoahLevick
Initial observations here on a Sixers win over the Raptors in their first post-Harden action:
nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nba/philadelph…9:33 PM
Janis Carr @janiscarr
Have the Clippers finally become relevant in LA with James Harden on board? @MirjamSwanson explores the idea. ocregister.com/2023/11/02/swa…9:22 PM
Mirjam Swanson @MirjamSwanson
James Harden excited for fresh start with Clippers – from ⁦@janiscarr⁩
From the man of the hour: “We got a pretty good team and unselfish players where we can see that and let them go.” ocregister.com/2023/11/02/jam…8:49 PM
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM
New ESPN story: James Harden explains what went wrong and how he felt “on a leash” in Philly, why he has “everything” to prove and how he hopes Ty Lue can let him get back to being a creator and understands “I’m not a system player. I am a system.” espn.com/nba/story/_/id…8:47 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Updated James Harden newser @TheAthletic
theathletic.com/5025768/2023/1… James Harden says he wants to ‘win at the highest level,’ plans to make Clippers debut vs. Knicks – 8:39 PM
Sam Vecenie @Sam_Vecenie
Guys, I’ve watched full Harden presser. Didn’t come away thinking all of it was much better.
These are nuisances for players so you never want to take too much from them. But found some of the responses weird/interesting for a guy about to become the Clips third-best player – 8:36 PM
Jonathan Feigen @Jonathan_Feigen
Won’t happen tonight, maybe not ever, but after @dmorey traded Harden and Tucker, Sixers can still go with all ex-Rocket lineup of Beverley, Melton, House, Covington, Morris; Martin as 6th man, Nurse (former RGV coach) as coach. Feel like I’m stepping back in time watching them. – 7:49 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
The “will Kawhi and PG play on zero days rest” questions
Are now being replaced by “will Russ and Harden both start” questions
Going to be fun few days lol
FWIW I expect all four to start with Zubac. Especially with Terance Mann injured. But probably when TMann back too – 7:45 PM
Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Now on @njdotcom
James Harden on his role with the L.A. Clippers: “I am not a system player, I am a system’ nj.com/sports/2023/11…7:21 PM
Spencer Percy @QCHspencer
James Harden sounds more like Kanye every time he gets in front of a mic and feels empowered. – 7:03 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden’s motivation:
– Proving that he’s very elite as an individual
– Fitting in with anybody
– Making a championship run work pic.twitter.com/u6Iqv2mFUZ6:47 PM
Kyle Neubeck @KyleNeubeck
I wish James Harden the best in Los Angeles – 6:44 PM
Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
‘I’m not a system player, I’m a system’
James Harden on his role with the Clippers – 6:34 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Harden: “It’s not about me scoring the basketball, scoring 30, 34 points a night. I’ve done that already.” – 6:32 PM
CBS NBA @CBSSportsNBA
James Harden says role in Philadelphia was ‘like being on a leash’: ‘I’m not a system player, I am a system’
cbssports.com/nba/news/james…6:26 PM
StatMuse @statmuse
James Harden ranks among active players:
— 3rd in points
— 4th in assists
— 2nd in threes
— 4th in triple-doubles
— 1st in 40-point games
— 1st in 50-point games
— 1st in 40-point triple-doubles
— 1st in 50-point triple-doubles
System. statmuse.com/nba/player/jam…6:26 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden: “I’m not a system player. I am a system.” Full Harden quotes on Nets/Sixers & @Rachel__Nichols’ follow up pic.twitter.com/zbUX2l23sK6:24 PM
Malika Andrews @malika_andrews
“I am not a system player. I am a system.”
Full comment from James Harden: pic.twitter.com/wWfLzgndlO6:15 PM
Matthew Tynan @Matthew_Tynan
Just scrolled the timeline for a second — 12 of the first 13 tweets I passed were tweets or quotes about the James Harden system video. The other one was a graphic explaining that Bol Bol is not Victor Wembanyama. Let’s basketball. – 6:13 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
📰Here is our initial hit on James Harden Clips presser @TheAthletic
theathletic.com/5025768/2023/1… pic.twitter.com/nNY7RTXRy76:10 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden: “I just want to win at the highest level. Taking less money and sacrificing the role, that’s not talked about. It’s talked about the other BS. It just didn’t work out. Me leaving Brooklyn & thinking I’m going to retire as a Sixer, the front office had other plans.” pic.twitter.com/T9M6UOpsQa6:09 PM
Melissa Rohlin @melissarohlin
James Harden said he felt as though he were on a leash in Philadelphia. pic.twitter.com/dZHQjKafiq6:07 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Harden: “If you’re just talking about strictly basketball, we definitely have an opportunity. When you talk about other things that you can’t control, can’t control those things. So hopefully none of those things happen, and can just focus on basketball.” – 6:04 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden on NBA title hopes:”If you’re talking just strictly basketball, we definitely have an opportunity. When you’re talking about other things that you can’t control, you can’t control those things. Hopefully none of those things happen, & we can just focus on basketball. – 6:03 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden: “When I was at Artesia, I was just trying to make it out.” – 6:01 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
James Harden says he is out to prove “everything” as he arrives to new team in last year of his deal.
“I’m very elite, and as an individual, and then I can fit in with anybody and make a championship run work.”
latimes.com/sports/clipper…5:59 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden: “We all got one goal, and I think everybody knows what that is. For me, it’s just going out here and finding the best way to contribute to this team.” – 5:57 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden: “I can fit in with anybody and make a championship run work. All of us are on the same page in the sense that the individual stats and all of those things are past us.” – 5:56 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Probably James Harden’s strongest comments.
Clearly pushing back on narrative that Harden might be unwilling to get off the ball, his money, etc.
“There’s a lot of narratives and people talking… people think they have an opinion or a voice, and other people listen to it.” pic.twitter.com/IOEx0iUdIH5:53 PM
Mark Deeks @MarkDeeksNBA
If only there’d been some sort of pattern of previous behaviour that could have made James Harden’s unwillingness to adapt foreseeable. – 5:52 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden confirms he’s targeting his first game with the Clippers on Monday vs Knicks – 5:47 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
James Harden on why he specifically wanted to come to the Clippers: “Fit, opportunity and like I said … back home.” – 5:41 PM
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM
James Harden was frustrated with his hamstring injury in Brooklyn and he felt he could do more in Philadelphia but also felt he was “on a leash” trying to adapt his playing style to what was needed. He feels he’s a creator on court. He’s not talking about leash on shots attempts – 5:41 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Harden on T Lue: “The things he draws up in huddles is unbelievable.” – 5:41 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden on struggles with Brooklyn (injuries) and Philadelphia (adapting to role) pic.twitter.com/1zz5qcjkx25:41 PM
Mirjam Swanson @MirjamSwanson
James Harden: “I’m not a system player, I’m a system.” – 5:41 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden: “I think the game, and I’m a creator on the court… someone that trusts me, believes in me… I’m not a system player… it’s not just about me scoring the basketball.” – 5:40 PM
Janis Carr @janiscarr
Harden said Westbrook was a big reason why he targeted the Clippers when he demanded a trade. The two previously played together in OKC and Houston. – 5:40 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden says that biggest setback in Brooklyn was his Grade 2 hamstring strain in 2021 postseason. That Nets team lost in 7 vs Bucks. He was in Philadelphia the following February. – 5:39 PM
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM
On having four homegrown products from the LA area trying to win a title for Clippers and what it means for kids here, James Harden said, “That’s special. That goes beyond us.” He talked about kids growing up looking to Paul Pierce and Baron Davis in the past. – 5:38 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden on LA guys: “We were looking up to guys like Paul Pierce, Baron Davis.” – 5:38 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Harden says he and Russell Westbrook go back to Boys & Girls Club… “our relationship goes far beyond basketball.” – 5:37 PM
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM
Asked James Harden why things didn’t work out in Brooklyn + Philly and why he feels it will be better in LA, he said things were out of his control such as injuries in Brooklyn and business side in Philadelphia. He feels comfortable back home in LA, and loves the opportunity – 5:37 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden says that he wants to be locked in defensively: “being the best version of myself, watching film, consistently communicating with coaches and continue to try to figure out how can I be great on both sides. It will take some time. Hopefully not too much time.” – 5:36 PM
Malika Andrews @malika_andrews
After a good workout today, James Harden says he hopes to make his Clippers debut Monday against the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. – 5:36 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
James Harden said that Russell Westbrook “of course, was one of the reasons” he wanted to join the Clippers. He said he feels Westbrook has something to prove, as well. – 5:36 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden confirms he’s targeting his first game with the Sixers on Monday vs Knicks – 5:35 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden says that he had a really good workout today, will practice tomorrow, and plans to debut Monday night at Madison Square Garden against the New York Knicks. – 5:35 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
Lawrence Frank has called this a prove-it season for the Clippers. Asked James Harden if he feels motivated to prove anything in this new stop, in the last year of his contract.
“Everything,” he said. – 5:35 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden on why his situations didn’t work out in Brooklyn and Philadelphia pic.twitter.com/NJbdxk0JOi5:34 PM
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM
James Harden said he took less money, tried to sacrifice his role in Philadelphia but feels the front office had other plans. He feels there’s a lot of narratives about him and says “none of that is true.” He loved the fans and players in Philly but is happy to be a Clipper. pic.twitter.com/ilkMUIcBiI5:33 PM
Andrew Greif @AndrewGreif
James Harden said he wanted to retire as a 76er.
“The front office had other plans,” he said. – 5:33 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden say fans and teammates in Philly were great. Says he took less money and changed his role to sacrifice with 76ers
“I just want to win at the highest level.” – 5:32 PM
Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina
James Harden: “I can fit in with anybody and make a championship work.” pic.twitter.com/Aay6lnZ1BH5:31 PM
Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
Sixers coach Nick Nurse if he ever thought he would coach James Harden in a game: pic.twitter.com/2hSUU7hU765:31 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
James Harden: “I’m very elite as an individual…” says he is also great at contributing in a team setting. – 5:30 PM
Mirjam Swanson @MirjamSwanson
James Harden is here, and so are we. pic.twitter.com/bI6sqS948q5:30 PM
Keith Pompey @PompeyOnSixers
Sixers coach Nick Nurse if he ever thought he would coach James Harden: pic.twitter.com/slGYXPK3I25:30 PM
Tim Bontemps @TimBontemps
Nick Nurse says James Harden worked hard, was in shape, was extremely professional and “looked awesome” in his time with the Sixers when he was with them over the past few weeks. – 5:28 PM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
Nick Nurse praises James Harden after the trade. He said he showed up, he worked hard, and he was in terrific shape. #Sixers5:27 PM
Ohm Youngmisuk @NotoriousOHM
Waiting on James Harden, who will be introduced to the media here shortly pic.twitter.com/yqVEwHZoA75:14 PM
Law Murray @LawMurrayTheNU
Did anyone do a James Harden intro presser bingo card
There’s still time to make one I reckon… – 4:27 PM
Henry Abbott @TrueHoop
On today’s podcast, what’s next for the 76ers after the Harden trade?
@coachthorpe and @jshector discuss. Plus, early season notes on the Celtics, Pelicans and Nuggets. And, the return of top 5!
Full episode: link.chtbl.com/TrueHoopSocial1 pic.twitter.com/vsf1VX3G2u3:30 PM
Michael Pina @MichaelVPina
I wonder if the James Harden trade still happens if Terance Mann didn’t get injured – 3:07 PM
Derek Bodner @DerekBodnerNBA
New for @phly_sports diehards: a primer on how the James Harden deal impacts the Sixers going forward, from the salary cap ramifications to the trade deadline flexibility and more.
allphly.com/james-harden-t…3:07 PM
CBS NBA @CBSSportsNBA
Lawrence Frank calls James Harden ‘a ceiling-raiser,’ Paul George says Clippers stars ‘wanted him here’
cbssports.com/nba/news/lawre…2:34 PM
Ric Bucher @RicBucher
Only one clear winner in Harden trade and it wasn’t the Clippers or the 76ers foxsports.com/stories/nba/nb…1:21 PM
Ky Carlin @Ky_Carlin
“It’s something that he wanted, apparently. So I’m just happy he got somewhere he wanted to be at.”
Paul Reed gave his thoughts on the James Harden trade #Sixers sixerswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/02/pau… via @SixersWire – 1:00 PM
The Ringer @ringernba
“The timing of this deal is very important.”
@JustinVerrier, @RobMahoney, and @BigWos break down Philly’s side of the Harden trade.
youtu.be/3UpPqicWt_412:55 PM
Gina Mizell @ginamizell
The James Harden Sixers era lasted less than two years. But it was eventful. And, at the end, tumultuous.
Here’s a compilation of the highs and lows, from one blockbuster trade to another.
inquirer.com/sixers/james-h…12:53 PM

More on this storyline

“If (the goal of the Clippers in aquiring James Harden) is a championship, (then) I don’t know,” Scout No. 1 texted. “It seems like it adds more of what they have: scoring and ballhandling. What do they do with Norman Powell and Russell Westbrook now? And it takes away all of their small-ball options, which is how they want to play. It will certainly lead to a lot of regular season wins, but the playoffs is a big question. “It’s an insurance play for if Kawhi Leonard or Paul George go down, you still have scoring. I’m very curious about what they do moving forward because Harden (who will be a free agent this summer) wanted to come to L.A. to get paid. He is going to ball out this season, but is a fourth team going to roll the dice on Harden and expect a different result? Short term 👍 Long term 😬” -via The Athletic / November 3, 2023

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